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'Dead' man returns
« on: Dec 04, 2007, 09:43 »
What's the craic with this guy who's re-appeared after being missing for 5 years? Is it possible to lose your memory for that length of time and not know who you are or where you came from?

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/topstories/display.var.1878025.0.fathers_joy_over_return_of_dead_son.php

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« Reply #1 on: Dec 04, 2007, 12:29 »
seems a bit suspect to me - afterall - his wife just sold the house and moved to panama about 6 weeks ago...think he wants to join her!!

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 04, 2007, 12:39 »
What's the craic with this guy who's re-appeared after being missing for 5 years? Is it possible to lose your memory for that length of time and not know who you are or where you came from?

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/topstories/display.var.1878025.0.fathers_joy_over_return_of_dead_son.php

Yes it is possible, there have been several documented cases, the most recent being the pianist who was found soaking wet walking along the beach, remember him, he could remember noting at all, except how to play excellent music.  Odd enough.  This one does sound a bit fishy though....

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« Reply #3 on: Dec 04, 2007, 13:01 »
would his life insurance have paid out death benefits after 5 years missing or would it be longer?

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« Reply #4 on: Dec 04, 2007, 13:27 »
The life insurance would pay out when he was officially declared dead

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 04, 2007, 13:30 »
Isn't that 7 years after disappearance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_in_absentia

IT normally takes seven years for a person to be declared dead when a body is not found.
Malcolm Tarling, a spokesperson for the Association of British Insurers, said: "What normally happens, if you are claiming on life insurance, you need to produce a death certificate.

"Where a person is missing, presumed dead, there normally has to be a lapse before the coroner is willing to pronounce the person dead. That is usually seven years.

"While being unable to comment on this particular instance, I can say that you have to show that you have made steps to prove a person is dead.

"The normal course of events when a person just disappears is that there has to be a period of time, unless you can prove that a person got on a plane that then crashed in the Atlantic, for example.

"At the end of the day that's a legal matter rather than an insurance one."

http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Legal-procedure-to-prove-persons.3551908.jp



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« Reply #6 on: Dec 04, 2007, 13:34 »
Isn't that 7 years after disappearance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_in_absentia

Then he's turned up 18 months early, or six weeks late depending on why he disappeared in the first place

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« Reply #7 on: Dec 04, 2007, 13:45 »
http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/Legal-procedure-to-prove-persons.3551908.jp

IT normally takes seven years for a person to be declared dead when a body is not found.
Malcolm Tarling, a spokesperson for the Association of British Insurers, said: "What normally happens, if you are claiming on life insurance, you need to produce a death certificate.

"Where a person is missing, presumed dead, there normally has to be a lapse before the coroner is willing to pronounce the person dead. That is usually seven years.

"While being unable to comment on this particular instance, I can say that you have to show that you have made steps to prove a person is dead.

"The normal course of events when a person just disappears is that there has to be a period of time, unless you can prove that a person got on a plane that then crashed in the Atlantic, for example.

"At the end of the day that's a legal matter rather than an insurance one."

Newspaper reports seem to suggest he was declared dead in 2002 when the remains of his canoe were washed up on the beach. The strange thing now is that his wife has apparently gone to live in Panama after selling the £300,000 house they lived in.

Not sure if it is I know dependents of victims of the Twin Towers who where not found were declared dead alot earlier than 7 years

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« Reply #8 on: Dec 04, 2007, 14:01 »
I think with the Twin Towers it was reasonable to pronounce the people dead in less than 7 years, as they almost certainly were dead and all the evidence backed that up (see the bit that says "unless you can prove ...."). As long as a death certificate is issued, then the subject is legally 'dead'. If the subject can't be proved to be dead, he can be presumed to be so once 7 years have passed and he hasn't been seen or heard of in that time.

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« Reply #9 on: Dec 04, 2007, 19:56 »
A death certificate was issued at the inquest by the coroner 18mths after he dissapeared

http://news.sky.com/skynews/video/videoplayer/0,,31200-1295570,00.htm

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« Reply #11 on: Dec 05, 2007, 08:16 »
And his wife stated that she had claimed on the insurance as she was unaware he was stil alive.

She must have forgotten they were photographed together in panama last year and appear on the Hotels website :roll:

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