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"NEW" TORIES
« on: Jan 04, 2006, 19:40 »
The new Tory leader does not take me in for one minute by his attempts to give that party a new image.
This is the party whose economic incompetence produced not one but two massive and long lasting recessions, which had a devastating effect on the Northeast both economically and socially, with the destruction of huge amounts of our traditional industry.
When they were in power The Tories gave us 15 % interest rates, which led to suffering for millions of homeowners throughout Britain, and David Cameron was a leading government advisor at that time.
The Tories claim to be the tax cutting party but when they were in power the only people who benefited were the rich as the tax burden was switched to VAT which affects the less well off the most.
And it should be remembered that crime increased 100% between 1979 and 1997 when they were in power so the Tories can?t claim to be the party of law and order either.
Overwhelmingly the Tories are led by wealthy, privately educated men from the southeast of England.
The Tories remain the political party who represent the interests of the rich, the powerful, and the privileged.

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« Reply #1 on: Jan 04, 2006, 22:42 »
But... we wont ever improve if all we do is look to the past. If we do that, then Labour can do what they want, because they know they just have to say in 3000BC the Tories did whatever, and everyone would go "oh yes, good point" and then Labour can continue to take away every civil liberty we have, all rights to free speech, and bleed our pockets dry.

If people actually take on board the change the Tories are trying to make, let them wipe the slate clean and give them the opportunity to prove they mean what they say, well, then it means Labour have to win our affection by catering for what WE want and not what they think is good for us.

Simple really, you can keep Labour in power, but make them givern for the people more by allowing the Tories to regain strength. Keep the Tories down and the totalitarian Tony approach will continue.

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 04, 2006, 22:52 »
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The new Tory leader does not take me in for one minute by his attempts to give that party a new image.
This is the party whose economic incompetence produced not one but two massive and long lasting recessions, which had a devastating effect on the Northeast both economically and socially, with the destruction of huge amounts of our traditional industry.
When they were in power The Tories gave us 15 % interest rates, which led to suffering for millions of homeowners throughout Britain, and David Cameron was a leading government advisor at that time.
The Tories claim to be the tax cutting party but when they were in power the only people who benefited were the rich as the tax burden was switched to VAT which affects the less well off the most.
And it should be remembered that crime increased 100% between 1979 and 1997 when they were in power so the Tories can?t claim to be the party of law and order either.
Overwhelmingly the Tories are led by wealthy, privately educated men from the southeast of England.
The Tories remain the political party who represent the interests of the rich, the powerful, and the privileged.


They have been forced to shift their ground, just as 'New' Labour did to get  elected. If the Tories are led by wealthy, privately educated men, where does Blair fit in? He's wealthy and privately educated too, but from Scotland instead.

If you feel better off financially under Labour then you are one of the few, because my wage has stood still in real terms pretty much since they came to power. We also pay far more stealth tax under Labour than under the Tories.

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« Reply #3 on: Jan 04, 2006, 23:23 »
The Tories have to change because they've been out Tory'd by Blair's lot.

Even when Blair says he admired Thatcher people still voted for him, usually the ones banging on about Labour history.

You really couldn't make this stuff up.

We are through the looking glass now people - black is white, and white is black.  :?

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« Reply #4 on: Jan 09, 2006, 11:13 »
Yes I am better off mainly because I haven?t been made redundant not once but TWICE which happened under the Tories.
I couldn?t be any worse off than I was then.
My father lost his job in 1987 and never worked since and my brother lost his job as well, I like so many others in this region can?t forget or forgive the tories.
So far Eton educated David ?tory boy? Cameron has said the only policies he will introduce are the re- introduction of foxhunting ? yes rich people must have the ?civil right? to torture an animal to death mustn?t they  :twisted: .
Oh and he wants to ban chocolate oranges from supermarket checkouts :roll: .
As for taxes if you think that tory tax cuts benefit anybody but the rich you are fooling only yourself.
As I mentioned Cameron- the CURRENT tory leader- was a leading advisor to the government when we had 15% interest rates.

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« Reply #5 on: Jan 17, 2006, 12:41 »
So what if Cameron was a leading advisor to the government when rates were 15%, i doesnt mean anyone listened to him!!
He might of been advising a different approach to the one that was taken!

As for fox hunting, are you saying its ok to ban it because the people who do it are rich! and therefore their civil liberties arent so important....
 :?  :?

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