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Better under Labour?
« on: May 12, 2008, 10:11 »
Britain's tax bill has increased by more than 50% in the past ten years under Labour, it has been claimed.

A report by the TaxPayers' Alliance (TPA) pressure group said that the total tax burden now stood at £517 billion a year - the equivalent of £20,700 per household.

That compared with a tax take of £294 billion in 1997-98 when Labour came to power, representing a 76% increase in cash terms over the decade or 51% if inflation is taken into account.

Life gets worse under Labour.


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Re: Better under Labour?
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2008, 10:21 »
The tax burden is getting horrific, that is why the Government is taking a battering and will almost certainly be kicked out at the next election. Tax is high because Government borrowing is high. The balance of payments is appalling, with money being leeched away right left and centre. They waste more than they spend (or it seems that way). The whole thing is a shambles, and they're just heaping more costs onto people who can least cope. Something has to give. Inflation (the real inflation rate) must be running at about 8-10% for essential services, but pay rises are tied below the official inflation rate which is a total nonsense. They even tax us on our tax! (VAT on fuel duty).  :evil:

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Re: Better under Labour?
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2008, 11:53 »
Wars aren't cheap.

that's it in a nutshell....

was reading that modern day soldiers don't get the respect that our forefathers did - but then they did fight to save our country...

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Re: Better under Labour?
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2008, 11:59 »
At least you don't have a 25% VAT on everything, including food...

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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2008, 12:48 »
The tax burden is getting horrific, that is why the Government is taking a battering and will almost certainly be kicked out at the next election. Tax is high because Government borrowing is high. The balance of payments is appalling, with money being leeched away right left and centre. They waste more than they spend (or it seems that way). The whole thing is a shambles, and they're just heaping more costs onto people who can least cope. Something has to give. Inflation (the real inflation rate) must be running at about 8-10% for essential services, but pay rises are tied below the official inflation rate which is a total nonsense. They even tax us on our tax! (VAT on fuel duty).  :evil:

I agree.  I've certainly had enough of Labour (or should I say New Labour?).  This government seems to waste money like it's going out of fashion, probably because they're all champagne socialists.
We're taxed to the hilt yet where are the police on the streets?  Why are so many kids leaving school unable to read & write?  Why is the NHS still a mess?  Why are foreigners coming into the country en-mass and filling up our maternity wards?  I could go on but don't want to depress myself thinking about it.

How about looking after us workers for a change Gordon?

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Re: Better under Labour?
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2008, 13:05 »
As a foreigner making a return to the NE come early November to look at possible places to move into come early or mid 2009 I don't particularly like being labelled as someone only coming to the UK turning into a burden using the system and what have we. When I lived in County Durham back then and when I move back to the NE (most likely to Sunderland) I plan to continue my line of work and continue putting money into the local community rather than being a burden taken money out of the system. Not every foreigner is a bad person is all I'm saying, some of us actually know we can contribute to society on almost equal terms with the locals. Which, in my eyes at least, isn't a bad thing.

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2008, 14:33 »
As a foreigner making a return to the NE come early November to look at possible places to move into come early or mid 2009 I don't particularly like being labelled as someone only coming to the UK turning into a burden using the system and what have we. When I lived in County Durham back then and when I move back to the NE (most likely to Sunderland) I plan to continue my line of work and continue putting money into the local community rather than being a burden taken money out of the system. Not every foreigner is a bad person is all I'm saying, some of us actually know we can contribute to society on almost equal terms with the locals. Which, in my eyes at least, isn't a bad thing.

I agree Alex, you can't tar everone with the same brush. I think D-Fens was referring to those who just come here and then live off our welfare state without putting anything back. That is something that must be minimised, if not stopped entirely. If you've paid in, you should be entitled to take out. If not, then 'unlucky'. We can no longer afford to just give money to everyone else when we can't even take care of our own people properly (postcode lottery healthcare etc.). If the Government stopped wasting money on hair-brained schemes and used our taxes where they should be used, funded a decent transport service and stopped lining the pockets of rich non-domiciles at the expense of everyone else, the country would be a better place. There's far too much nest-feathering going on.

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Re: Better under Labour?
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2008, 14:35 »
As a foreigner making a return to the NE come early November to look at possible places to move into come early or mid 2009 I don't particularly like being labelled as someone only coming to the UK turning into a burden using the system and what have we. When I lived in County Durham back then and when I move back to the NE (most likely to Sunderland) I plan to continue my line of work and continue putting money into the local community rather than being a burden taken money out of the system. Not every foreigner is a bad person is all I'm saying, some of us actually know we can contribute to society on almost equal terms with the locals. Which, in my eyes at least, isn't a bad thing.

In D-Fens defence, I got the impression (rightly or wrongly) that he was referring to the foreigners who arrive..dont speak English..have little or no chance of finding a job, and who waste away on benefits!
(that doesnt sound like you to me Alex  :wink:)

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Re: Better under Labour?
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2008, 15:06 »
yes - I agree with the above...

so, you thinking of moving back into county durham then Alex..? if so, which part..? :)

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« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2008, 15:07 »
I know he prob didn't mean to place all foreigners under the same tree but at the end of the day when I move back to the NE next year I, too, will become as close to an immigrant without actually being one (keeping my Danish citizenship will prob be a good idea, nee offense). But that's pretty much where the similarities end. I won't be stealing anyone's job, I won't run a local branch of sex slaves from Eastern Europe, I won't be using the system of welfare in the UK whatsoever taking any money out at all. I will simply do what I did the last time 'round and continue my line of work and try the best I can to fit in with the locals and the surroundings in general. I won't be causing any crime nor violence, I won't be causing any rifts with the locals systemwise as I won't be relying on the UK welfare system whatsoever. I will simply continue living my life the way I do now, only back in the NE where my heart tells me I belong.

But then again, I'm lucky in the way that unless I open my gob I can easily go for being just one of you guys. I look no different so no-one would prob even think I'm an immigrant in spe. I bet there is the odd Viking gene in just about all of you as it is :wink:

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« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2008, 15:27 »
yes - I agree with the above...

so, you thinking of moving back into county durham then Alex..? if so, which part..? :)

Yup, the Norseman Returns...

As much as I love County Durham (and indeed I'm still listed on a website for the area looking for a place to stay) I have sadly come to the conclusion that County Durham should be treasured for what it is, a beautiful, friendly place with plenty of good-humoured lads and lasses but also as a place where an open-minded, bi-sexual Norseman working in the porn-biz doing his own (ahem) research will always find hardship ahead. As much as I loved the village back then it also caused me grief at times and without saying I prob should've taken the advise from just about everyone before I moved there back then to heart, I have come to the conclusion that I would be just as happy and prob slightly safer moving to a larger place. I currently have two adverts up on a website for people looking for a place to live and less than ten mins after I put the Sunderland one up a local landlord called me saying he had a place for me to stay if I was interested. The place might not be available come next year, of course, but he was very kind and good-humoured (and rather liked the fact that I support the Lads) and I'm meeting up with him when I return for a week or so in early November. He told me he has other places up for rent if the place he mentioned on the phone should turn out to be booked by then. I then plan to move back to the NE next year with June at the moment sounding like the most likely outcome. But who knows, if I manage to find somewhere nice and friendly and with green areas I wouldn't say no to moving earlier than June. But it will deff not be till 2009 either way.

Hoping to meet up with some of the good folks off here at last, maybe even when I return for a brief stay in November ? I'd like that very much. Still have sad memories of missing out on my birthday cake back then :cry:

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