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End of Local Education Authorities
« on: Apr 06, 2008, 22:28 »


End of Local Education Authorities

Parents’ groups, charities, faith bodies, and mutual organizations will have greater role in delivering educational services under plans being drawn up by both Labour and Tory parties. Swedish system of independent state schools, financed by vouchers, is now inspiring the Tory Party to set British schools free from LEAs. The proposal will end 60 years of local government control of education,

 Since 1944, all schools have been under a statutory obligation to provide for the spiritual, moral, social and cultural development of pupils at the schools. All state schools have failed to help children to achieve such goals. This is the main reason why silent majority of Muslim parents would prefer to send their children to Muslim schools. Even OFSTED is unable to assess the spiritual and moral development of the children. There is ample evidence that state schools foster intolerance, hate and bullying. There is no evidence that Muslim schools indoctrinate children with values and endanger shared society. Primary Review reports on diversity presents a powerful attack on current educational discourse in relation to diversity and to bilingual pupils in particular. The schools and teachers see children’s use of languages other than English as a ‘barrier to learning’ instead of recognizing and respecting them.

It is crucial that Muslim children should be surrounded with the languages, culture and faith. Faith is powerful element of both personal and community identity. They need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. There are hundreds of state schools where Muslim pupils are in majority, in my opinion and in the opinion of the silent majority of Muslim parents, all such schools may be designated as Muslim community schools. Muslim schools are not only faith schools, they are more or less bilingual schools. Bilingual Muslim children need to learn and well versed in Standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. They need to learn and well versed in Arabic to recite and understand the Holy Quran. They need to learn and well versed in Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of their literature and poetry. Bilingualism is brilliant for the development of intellectual ability and cultural understanding. The great diversity of cultures and languages should be the key to the development of Britain as a world leader in multilingual, multi-cultural integration and partnership, an example to every other nation of how people of all faiths and cultures can live, learn and work together in harmony for a more just and fair world for everybody.
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Re: End of Local Education Authorities
« Reply #1 on: Apr 06, 2008, 23:08 »
I'm sure there must be lots of these schools in Muslim countries.

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« Reply #2 on: Apr 07, 2008, 10:24 »
I'm sure there must be lots of these schools in Muslim countries.

Yes but they are called terror camps

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Re: End of Local Education Authorities
« Reply #3 on: Apr 07, 2008, 10:53 »
Iftikhar thinks he's spreading the word and getting it indexed, but this is a closed group and only those signed up for it can read it. He also never replies to any threads, so you're probably wasting your time trying to engage him in an argument.

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Re: End of Local Education Authorities
« Reply #4 on: Apr 07, 2008, 12:38 »
haven't we had this post before?

And at the risk of repeating the same answer - it's rather an idealistic expectation that the inner city schools in the UK can cope with teaching every child in their native tongue, when as reported by a head teacher in North London, the children actually spoke 59 native tongues. Which would you suggest gets priority - Yes English - as believe it or not - that is where we live.

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« Reply #5 on: Apr 07, 2008, 14:35 »
Salaam

Muslim schools are not only faith schools but they are more or less
bilingual schools.

Bilingual Muslim children need to learn standard English to follow the
National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve
humanity. They need to be well versed in Arabic to recite and understand the
Holy Quran. They need to be well versed in Urdu and other community
languages to keep in touch with their cultural roots and enjoy the beauty of
their literature and poetry.

Bilingualism is an asset but the British schooling regards it as a problem.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to
become notoriously monolingual Brit. Pakistan is only seven hours from
London and majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan.

More than third of British Muslim have no qualifications. British school
system  has been failing large number of Muslims children for the last 60
years. Muslim scholars see the pursuit of knowledge as a duty, with the
Quran containing several verses to the rewards of learning. 33% of British
Muslims of working age have no qualifications and Muslims are also the least
likely to have degrees or equivalent qualifications. Most of estimated
500,000 Muslim school-aged pupils in England and Wales are educated in the
state system with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. Majority of them are
underachievers because they are at a wrong place at a wrong time.

Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual
Muslim teachers during their developmental periods. There is no place for a
non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. As far as higher education
is concerned, Muslim students can be educated with others.

You better concentrate on native children for their proper education. Let
Muslim community educate its own children so that they can develop their own
Islamic, cultural and linguistic identities.

We are living in an English speaking country and English is an international
language, therefore, we want our children to learn and be well versed in
standard English and at the same time well versed in Arabic, Urdu and Arabic
languages. Is there anything wrong with this approach?

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Re: End of Local Education Authorities
« Reply #6 on: Apr 07, 2008, 15:31 »
Bilingualism is an asset but the British schooling regards it as a problem.
A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to
become notoriously monolingual Brit. Pakistan is only seven hours from
London and majority of British Muslims are from Pakistan.


How many more countries are between here and Pakistan? - I don't know should we teach them all?

The state system isn't set up to teach every faith within the State system - it was set up to educate children in English.

If you think that it's important to educate your kids in their heritage and background then feel free to get on with it within your community BUT at your cost. Anyway if Pakistan was that great then get back on the plane and go home, then the muslim kids won't get any influence from the lesser beings within English State schools   


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Re: End of Local Education Authorities
« Reply #7 on: Apr 07, 2008, 15:50 »
I do him a disservice. He has actually repiled before, now a second reply.

As Victoria says, British Schools were never set up to educate children in each of their native languages, so we pick our own native laguage to use. There may be tens of 'native laguages' spoken in most British Schools. There may even be several different languages spoken amongst Muslim pupils in the same school. There are just not enough resources to educate all pupils in their own native language. Because the schools are in England, it's not unreasonable to educate the kids using English teaching methods (after all they've done pretty well for the millions of graduates who've been through the system before already). If the kids need extra tuition in another language/culture of choice, then by all means let the parents pay for that facility. Get private tutors in to give them the extra tuition they need, but don't expect us to totally change our education system to accomodate other cultures.

If you want State funded Muslim schools then i'm afraid you're going to have to get them from States that are in fact Muslim.

Is there anything wrong with this approach?



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Re: End of Local Education Authorities
« Reply #8 on: Apr 07, 2008, 16:51 »
Crikey, I thought that weirdo had gone  :roll: 

I have little to add other than I stand by the comments of VS and NEForum on this one. 

Also to add that if our state schools are not up to your high standard, then it's hard luck pal.  Feel free to choose to move away to another country that would offer you such civil liberty as this one AND free schooling.  Good luck finding it  :x

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