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Offline M.Rose

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Apple Computers
« on: Mar 05, 2012, 22:11 »
Are these really the Best?  I am sick of mine being slow,  etc.

I have been assured by owners of "Apples" that they are trouble free and no waiting.
Seems like Bliss,  Help!


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« Reply #1 on: Mar 06, 2012, 07:05 »
If you want ease of use, Macs are good. Although the hardware is more expensive, software is generally cheaper, with more built in to the operating system as standard. Updating is easy and never fails. They look nice if your computer needs to fit your decor. Some hardened PC owners hate them with a passion, but it's an irrational hate IMHO.

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« Reply #2 on: Mar 06, 2012, 20:06 »
I had a go with one. Was not impressed would not touch one with a barge pole.
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Re: Apple Computers
« Reply #3 on: Mar 06, 2012, 23:01 »
I had a go with one. Was not impressed would not touch one with a barge pole.

How long did this 'having a go' take?  :wink:

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« Reply #4 on: Mar 07, 2012, 08:01 »
A friend asked for help as he was having problems I thought "how hard can it be". If I can sort problems out on a PC I can sort out a MAC. Big mistake almost a whole day and no further forward. I'll stick to PCs I can fix them to some extent.
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« Reply #5 on: Mar 07, 2012, 08:34 »
Apple computers compared to PC's remind me somewhat of new cars with their Canbus wiring, automatic lights and wipers etc to the older style cars with "proper" wiring no computers, etc.

The apple (or new car) is less likely to go wrong but if it does then it will cost a fortune and you will need an expert to fix it with specific parts for that model made by Apple (or car manufacturer).

If the PC (or older car) goes wrong you can delve in, find out what is wrong and source parts from many places cheaply.

One example of the above, a towbar for my car you can get for around £80 (incl electrics) and fit it yourself, someone recently got a quote for a modern Ford and was quoted at £654 for supply and fitting then it would need taking to Ford to have it's computer reprogrammed to tell it it has a towbar and electrics fitted so it can compensate for the extra electrics and alter its gear selection program when towing.

I would rather have the older car and the PC.

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Re: Apple Computers
« Reply #6 on: Mar 07, 2012, 08:35 »
ah right, it's because you didn't know how to use it...

makes sense then... :doh:

edit - that was in response to credo's reply... :)

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« Reply #7 on: Mar 07, 2012, 09:22 »
ah right, it's because you didn't know how to use it...

makes sense then... :doh:

edit - that was in response to credo's reply... :)

I drive a Vauxhall but I could also drive a Ford, I thought if I can use a PC I can use a Mac
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Re: Apple Computers
« Reply #8 on: Mar 07, 2012, 11:20 »
Credo, It's easier to use a Mac if you've never used a PC before. If you are familiar with PCs, certain parts of the way Macs work can be confusing. However, once you get used to them they're a dream to use. I use both Macs and PCs and they suit me fine. Each have their own advantages, depending on what the task in hand is.

In terms of 'fixing' them, I agree you'd be better off sticking with what you know. Just because you can 'drive' one doesn't mean you are qualified or have the knowledge to 'fix' one.

Or, alternatively, learn something about them before you start fiddling.  :wink:


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Re: Apple Computers
« Reply #9 on: Mar 07, 2012, 11:29 »

The apple (or new car) is less likely to go wrong but if it does then it will cost a fortune and you will need an expert to fix it with specific parts for that model made by Apple (or car manufacturer).


Most of the innards of an Apple PC aren't made by Apple at all, they can be sourced from any good 3rd party supplier, it's just that Apple have a specific approved parts list that they know the software will work with, without difficulty. That results in optimum stability. MS Windows is expected to cope with an endless supply of different hardware (probably unfairly) which results in driver problems, badly matched components, glitches and more failures due to cheaper components being used (and more people 'fixing' and 'modding' them). The Mac also has less of a virus threat, as most virus writers target PCs. Because of this, there are less security patches and updates needed, although Apple do occasionally issue them.

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Re: Apple Computers
« Reply #10 on: Mar 07, 2012, 13:10 »
The Gap between the two is shrinking however
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« Reply #11 on: Mar 08, 2012, 09:04 »
This is true, the standard of PC builds is increasing, but the pressure to produce at minimum cost will always result in cheaper components being used. Windows 7 copes much better than XP, but it's still difficult trying to cope with all flavours/combinations of hardware when the hardware source is unpredictable and uncontrolled by the OS vendor.

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